Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (1/2)
Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (1/2)
[00.58.39-Fred THOMPSON interrogates DEAN about his use funds and his travel plans at that time] Mr. THOMPSON. I have a document here that I would like to present to you, which is a similar document indicating a, request, the contact being Mr. Dean this time, dated October 19, 1972, for flight to Miami on October 20, to return October 23. There are several markings down here. Evidently, there was some confusion as to the airlines. That is the only thing I can tell. Mr. DEAN. No; this probably indicates, as I recall-it is 10-19--- they could not find a flight, they tried to get a flight, they could not find a flight and they had me, on the wait list. I see there is a wait list indication down here--W.L. I assume, is wait list. The only thing I can assume is that this is some sort of form that the travel office uses which I have never seen before, so I cannot explain it. Mr. THOMPSON. But you do remember the occasion, you do remember the trip? Mr. DEAN. On the 19th? Mr. THOMPSON. You would have been leaving on the, 20th, I believe, Mr. Dean. Mr. DEAN. On the 20th--that is correct. Mr. THOMPSON. And returned on the 23d? Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Mr. THOMPSON. Were you called back Mr. DEAN, Do I recall that? As I say, I recall several efforts to get to Florida but not -with success. Mr. THOMPSON. What I asked you, and I think you misunderstood me, was were you called back on the 23d? Mr. DEAN-. Yes; I have testified that after I got to Florida, I was Virtually On the phone the whole time 'me, and suddenly was called back, to come back on Sunday. I went to this meeting in the Roosevelt room which I have described in my testimony and turned around again as soon as I thought I could get off to Florida again and tried to get to Florida again. This must be the trip that evidences that. I would assume that indicates that trip. [01.00.38] Mr. THOMPSON. All right. Mr. Dean, my point again is as to the significance of the points I have been going over. I know they seem rather minute in comparison with Presidential involvement, but I think when you state in your statement that you planned several weeks and if one wanted to put a theory afloat that, possibly you were trying to seek to justify your taking this money out for some reason other than you have given us today, that trip, that is an extended honeymoon this would be very relevant. Mr. Chairman, I would like to either have, these for identification or made part of the record, I would suggest and hope that we would get the proper people in charge of the custody of these documents to come down here and verify them for us. Mr. DEAN. As I indicated to the committee. I am perfectly willing to provide all my materials, all my records, and this can be gone over in the greatest detail the committee Wishes. MR. THOMPSON. That will be done, Mr. Dean. Thank you. Senator ERVIN. Let the documents be appropriately numbered by the, reporter. [01.01.54] Mr. SHAFFER. Mr. Chairman. I would like to make a request of the Chair, and I think Mr. Thompson ought to be aware of something that I do not think he is aware of. That is that in the files, there is -a Xerox copy of all the currency that Mr. Dean transmitted to me and that I transmitted to the bank before that currency cleared. That, was made in my office by me to my secretary, who is in this room and I still consider myself under oath, and turned over to this committee voluntarily and not pursuant 'to a subpena. So by looking at the, serial numbers on that currency you can establish whether or not More than $4,850 was taken out and some other currency put back. Because, my recollection of that currency is the serial numbers, while from the first bill to the last are not in sequential order, there are a Series of sequential numbers that meant something to the prosecutors. With reluctance, I also would like to say that when Mr. Dean first spoke to me, about, the cash and his check, the cash and the check were not then open to view. I have never seen this missing check, we never discussed destruction of the missing check with the committee, before. On the next day, when I had decided what we were a going to do with go the check and the documents, I said. I -will need a currently doted check--he had told me the one was old--and the, currency, which he Provided me at, another location. I am sorry as an officer of the court, and also analogously as an officer of this committee. that we do not have, here today for you that check, and I assure each and every one of you under oath that there, was no intention on my part, or Mr. Dean's to destroy that document and keep it, from you. Thank you. Mr. THOMPSON. We might just put one question--- Mr. DASH. I think it should go on the record that it is true that we, did receive the photostatic copies of currency and Mr. Thompson does know about it, because I have shown him that file. Mr. SHAFFER. I am sorry. I did not know whether he knew about it or not. Mr. THOMPSON. I received some of these documents belatedly and much later than Mr. Dash, quite frankly---- [01.04.07-TAPE OUT]