Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (1/2)
Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities, June 29, 1973 (1/2)
[00.13.14-THOMPSON asks DEAN about the financing of the coverup] Mr. THOMPSON. I am not holding you accountable. This is strictly a collateral matter, it is a matter that you -wound up with money in your safe or perhaps a part, of it, or the Committee To Re-Elect wound up with money that they were using, according to some of the testimony we have had, in paying, these, defendants. Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Mr. THOMPSON. I was -wondering for my own information where that money should have gone after the 1968 primaries were over; in whose custody it -was. Mr. DEAN. Well, I gather what, the intention -was after the 1968 primaries and the 1968 general election that there was, I recall a figure of $1.9 million being left. Now, I am sure your committee, investigators, are, trying to reconstruct the totality of this cash, and I don't know what happened to all that money. I know -Mr. Kalmbach told me what happened to some, of it, and some of it, was spent for polling that I mentioned earlier today, that some of it was spent for payment to Mr. Wallace's opponent's campaign, and the remainder of it was still surplus money. Now there was other surplus money that came in from the 1970 campaign. congressional campaign effort that apparently was kept separate also is my understanding but. you know, I am not intimately familiar with these details at all. [00.14.39] Mr. THOMPSON. Where did you get your information concerning the money going to Mr. Wallace's opponent? Mr. DEAN. From Mr. Kalmbach. Mr. THOMPSON. 'Mr. Kalmbach told you that? Mr. DEAN. That is correct. Mr. THOMPSON. Did he indicate he had personal dealings in that matter? Mr. DEAN. Yes, he did. Mr. THOMPSON. What did he say exactly about that.? Mr. DEAN. He indicated to me that he had made a disbursement of the surplus money to a-he, didn't give, me the mechanics of it, to that purpose. Mr. THOMPSON. Who was Mr. Wallace's opponent at that time? Mr. DEAN. I think it was Mr. Brewer, as I recall. Mr. THOMPSON. Governor Brewer. And he said what, excuse me. Mr. DEAN. That money had gone to that campaign from these funds. Mr. THOMPSON. Did he. indicate whether there were. any intermediaries in that particular transaction? Mr. DEAN. This discussion was, I guess it was, in late. February of this year, in which he was recounting to me generally what had happened to the money he had had in his custody because he was trying to reconstruct in his own mind. Apparently he had no records at this point in time, and he was trying to reconstruct the areas that he could recall as to how the disbursements of the money that had come from" New York had traveled. And this is all, I just recall this point sticking in my mind as one of the things he said. [00.16.10] Mr. THOMPSON. Did he, indicate that money had gone to any other Democratic candidates? Mr. DEAN. I -am not sure that Mr. Brower was a, Democratic candidate was he? Mr. THOMPSON. Well, he was. Mr. DEAN. Was he a Democratic candidate? Mr. THOMPSON. He was Governor of Alabama. Mr. DEAN. Well, I am not familiar with what--I know there was an extensive fundraising effort in the 1970 congressional campaign and the records of those fundraising efforts and the disbursements as well came up in another conversation with another interrogation by the committee. Those records, to the best -of my knowledge are still in a safe in Mr. Fielding's custody. They have never been reviewed or read by anybody in my office. They were placed in that safe with those instructions no one Was to read them. We were given these records by Mr. Colson, and I, as I recall, Mr. Colson had collected the records from Mr. Gleason, who was also involved in this activity at this time. [00.17.22-THOMPSON asks DEAN more questions about the his personal use of the funds entrusted to him] Mr. THOMPSON. Mr. Dean, let me leave that and -ask you a few questions concerning the $4,850 which you took from the safe. As I understand it, the reason you took that money instead of using your personal funds was that time in effect had run out on you and You had failed to go to the New York accounts you had, would that be your stock accounts? [00.17.44] Mr. DEAN. That is correct. I had not only forgotten to take care, of money matters, I had forgotten to get a-it wasn't I had forgotten, I had gotten too consumed to get wedding music, I had forgotten to get a minister or a judge to handle the proceedings, and it was general bit of panic there, in the final hours. I might say. Mr. THOMPSON. The, chairman presented to you a statement from the Shearson and Hamill Co. of your stock account, I believe, yesterday, do you happen to have a copy of that with you? I have two extra copies here if that would expedite matters any. [00.18.44]